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[請教] PAM 185 Radiomir 合理價錢

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dwcny
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註冊時間: Jul 26, 2007
文章: 875
來自: NYC

發表於: 星期一 2008-03-10 13:42

請教各位沛達大大

今天開車去遠一點的AD喝下午茶主要是去看 Cartier 藍氣球

結果意外發現他們有支庫存老新品 (old new stock):
淺藍色 Rolex Daytona !!!
是數年前出一組: 粉紅,鵝黃,淺綠,剩下的淺藍 with Roman hour marker.
Model# 1165199
Serial# P185030
List Price USD$ 23,050.00

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還有10多支 Panerai :
兩支 PAM 104
一支 PAM 帆船賽記時錶 (型號已忘啦)
還有支讓我心動 (42mm) 卻未曾見討論或貼圖:

Panerai Radiomir PAM 185

Limited Production 150 pieces, White Gold, GMT,
Black guilloche dial with raised hour markers and 6, 12.
42mm Double Crown, self-winding, 100m WR,
Black alligator strap, 18K WG deployant clasp
Date with magnifier, small second dial,

List USD $16,700

請教...
1) 這支 PAM 185 評價如何?
2) 是限量嗎? 經理說是限量150支但我找不到限量刻號.
3) Caliber OPXIII 是誰家的機蕊 ? 準度/穩度? CSOC?
4) 42mm 是屬小碼沛囉它能像大號沛般保值或好脫手嗎?
5) 最後... 多少錢才合理?

我有輕描淡寫問一下多少錢
那經理說: "a bit higher than list, but we can work it out" 然後扎扎眼
看他看偶的眼神決定不多談所以說他是要超定價賣
但... 超定價(多少)能接受嗎?

先謝謝各位大大解答

PAM185 有很奇怪細緻的表面以下是網路上抓圖這彽解析圖中有被變形...

boyjama
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註冊時間: Feb 16, 2008
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發表於: 星期一 2008-03-10 13:55

跟184一樣只是改成k金
小弟覺得買184就好
retail價應該超過20,000 usd了吧眼睛轉啊轉

aaronfong
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註冊時間: Mar 17, 2004
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發表於: 星期一 2008-03-10 14:08

Caliber OPXIII may be made by JLC...... 眼睛轉啊轉

dwcny
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註冊時間: Jul 26, 2007
文章: 875
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發表於: 星期一 2008-03-10 14:39

謝謝大大

184 與 185 面盤有些小小不同, 眼見實物感覺也有些不同 (除白金與不鏽剛色澤光運不同之外)

184: 錶面平黑, 數字與桿桿時標沒有外框, 3和9點之處沒有夜光時標

185: 錶面亮黑+細緻紋路, 數字與桿桿時標有亮黑色的金屬細框, 3和9點之處有夜光點

PAM 184 below:

gst
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註冊時間: Jul 07, 2003
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發表於: 星期一 2008-03-10 15:42

44以下的配那海不好脫手

請改買勞力士

jen0414
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註冊時間: Mar 13, 2004
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發表於: 星期二 2008-03-11 22:54

since PAM185 is a hi-price SE, then you should treat it as an investment.
But PAM185 is not hot, it's difficult to gain some bonus frm it..

In my opinion, u should take 104 or 184(Date + GMT, a pratical and useful watch)
BTW, 184 is not very expensive..

dwcny
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註冊時間: Jul 26, 2007
文章: 875
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發表於: 星期二 2008-03-11 23:13

Thanks boyjama, hong2392, gst, jen

hey jen,
you are so good in making a clear point.
yes I see, 185 should be treated like an investment... then in my case even if I like PAM185 it still wouldn't be for me becuase:

1) I don't have USD$16000 to put away (for maybe a small increase or more likely not) after 5 years. I can do much better with my $16k in the stock market for 5 years.

2) I buy watch to wear. so the Stainless Stell 184 would be a better choice.

What caliber/movememnt is in 104 and 184?
which one has CSOC certification?

so, if I'm getting a "Luminor"... instead of Radiomir
104 or 184 will be my best choice?

What is the actual selling price for 104 and 184 in TW?

jen0414
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註冊時間: Mar 13, 2004
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發表於: 星期二 2008-03-11 23:36

For 104(44mm), it should be ETA movement... list price NT$ 164k(?), 10% discount.. around NT$ 148k!! Hot item.....

For 184(42mm), it should be JLC movement...around NT$ 170k(used)~220k(New), not easy to find.

Why not think about 048(40mm)?