我朋友說他想借一筆錢去買表....你決ㄉ他是不是瘋ㄌ...他很喜歡手錶
..旦你們決ㄉ他值ㄉ嗎...他看到ROLEX16610就好像一見鍾情...
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wqz077
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LKK
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發表於: 星期一 2003-12-08 00:46
玩勞力士之前最好先看看這本書
James Dowling的 The Best of Time 連玩勞力士最瘋的日本人也得請James Dowling做顧問 另外基本的消息可以從TimeZone的 http://www.timezone.com/messageView.aspx?forumId=tzclassic&msgId=tzclassic001884 勞力士不是最好的瑞士錶 但是確是最好玩最有意思的牌子 連型號 保單國碼 手錶序號 都可以有系統的規劃 尤其型號 手錶序號 又藏匿在錶殼與錶帶相連處 更好笑是這些消息是由公司外部人士 像挖小道消息般挖掘出來 有那個牌子那麼有意思 尤其當有新的改良 勞力士本身不會宣佈 (日本人好像有第一手資料) 像SD的延長節必須按著做記號的地方才會彈出 氦氣活門改成鈦金屬 面板塗料改變用不同鋼材 白金針... 更瘋的是有錶迷自行做透視背 放置在16570上還號稱防水60米 (100米才能下泳池沒問題) 可惜沒什麼人要買來換 至於借款買16610是不太好 除非是漲價前或許還好 94年14270 Exp-1只要4萬元現在114270要10幾萬 在臺灣勞力士服務最好 (修理洗油零件庫存) 當然是機械錶首選(也是當舖首選) |
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LKK
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發表於: 星期一 2003-12-08 00:52
忘掉說十年前大多數當舖只收兩個牌子
Rolex and PP.... 為什麼?..... 看官自己猜 |
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flyback
歐美特派員   |
發表於: 星期一 2003-12-08 03:50
wqz077, I think it's not as much of pros and cons anymore. It all depends on what you want and looking for. There isn't a one size fits all solution, so you just have to think how you are going to use the watch. And speaking of taking out a loan, I don't think I'd ever do that. If I don't even have enough to get a watch of this price range (come to think of it, it's not that much when you have a family), I don't think I'd worry about watches for the time being. I'd take out a loan only for a house or a car, but definitely not a watch. Unless they offer no interest for the first year or something.
Swaylone, good to see you again. Your thoughts are always appreciated. One thing tho, I still can't figure out who really "invented" the self-winding movement. You mentioned Harwood, but what about Breguet and Perrelet? They were doing that in the late 18th century as well. I'm confused. If possible, could you please clarify this for me? Is Breguet's perpétuelle not consider a true self-winding watch in today's standard? I just can't find enough info and have not yet had the chance to read Chapuis's "The History of the Self-Winding Watch 1770-1931". Also, do you mind telling me which brand(s) that you think they are selling history more than their craftmanship? I think Breguet and Blancpain may be the closest one that I can think of. They still make some really cool high end movements, but I sometimes feel that their lower end stuff are not as good as advertised. I do sympathize Lange and GO, b/c they have been through WW2 and the cold war. It's definitely not fun when most of their assets were bombed away and forced to make quartz watches for Russian officials. LKK, after all these postings, I can say that I've learned a great deal every time I walk out of this thread. I know I'm not a Rolex guy, but I've learned a great deal about it for the past few days. I also went to other forums and see what others have said about the brand. At the end, I know it's not for me, but I can see someone who is more sporty or outgoing can make good use of the watch. Someday, I may change, but when I go skiing or playing other sports, I'd still prefer wearing the quartz chrono that my dad gave me when I was in high school. Btw, I hope my inability to type Chinese is not a problem for you guys (especially, my English is not exceptionally great). I'll try my best to keep it simple and short. |
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swaylone
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發表於: 星期三 2003-12-10 21:31
Hello Flyback,
最早發明自動錶的是Perrelet,但那是懷錶.我不太清楚Breguet與self-winding的關係,可是因為Breguet曾受教於Perrelet,所以可能有沾上某些關係吧? 像你提起Blancpain或Breguet雖然它們製錶歷史有中斷,不過畢竟仍是頂級大廠,享有集團內最好的技術.如最近兩個廠共同出現的音簧鬧鈴錶即是一例.所以我不是指它們.至於low end產品值不值得,我倒覺得牽涉到品牌情結的因素多一點.就像我之前提過的花錢買它們的形象.所以值不值得見仁見智.反倒是一些二三線廠家,在雜誌上看見它們的平面廣告,上面的廣告用辭極盡誇耀聳動.且不論那些廠家過去有過何等豐功偉績,如果今天它們的成就產品與之相比顯得並不突出的話,那就很明顯的是在販賣歷史而已.是不是只有台灣的雜誌才有這樣的廣告,給人明顯的感受.雜誌封面寫著"專業雜誌",出現這樣的廣告好像成了給外行人看的雜誌一樣.美國的廣告會這樣嗎? |
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antonio
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發表於: 星期五 2003-12-12 10:42
之前因為結婚
所以買了梭半曼OPEN HEART一對(因為我老婆喜歡的女表不多,要小,要秀氣) 雖不是高價錶,但我覺得不錯說 但女錶用了2個月發現時針不準(就是三點時不是對到三) 不知是我購買當時沒注意 或是我老婆太粗魯(他第一次有機械錶) 所以 我當然回去找店家 因為我向店家有交易過4支錶 二話不說 換一支新的給我(當然鋼帶是用原來的) 我覺得這就叫做SERVICE
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TED
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發表於: 星期五 2003-12-12 11:11
樓上的大哥提的是售後服務
我說的是售前服務也很重要 之前為了等我的對表 一男一女前後等了差不多半年 女表先來,先買單,同時也順便議了男表的價錢 但是我並未下訂金..... 等到男表到貨時,適逢代理商漲價 新舊價格差異一萬多.... 
當時通知我去看表時,心中著實不悅 認為代理商搞鬼,(未漲價錢沒貨,漲完價一周,各表店紛紛上架) 但是女表已經買了,只好忍痛.... 
然而到了表店,表店告訴我,用之前議定的價格賣我 因為漲價錢三個月就叫貨了,他向總代理爭取舊價格交易 讓我一圓心願 其實大家心知肚明,表店沒必要這樣做啊 他大可換個吊牌,然後用新價錢賣我 它可以賺更多... 這不也是服務嗎??令人感動的服務 |
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flyback
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發表於: 星期日 2003-12-14 05:44
swaylone,
Honestly, when I look at ads, I don't really pay attention to what they write. I only look at the watches. If there's a brand which I'm not familiar, I'd go online to do some research. If I find them appealing on their site, then I'll go to Timezone and see what people say about them. I've only read 3 different magazines anyway. They are Internationl wristwatch, watchtime, and hr. I find IWM the most appealing, but way too expensive. Watchtime is the most affordable and provide the most information. I started a subscribtion to that already. fb |
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BB
訪客 |
發表於: 星期一 2003-12-15 10:00
我還要補充LKK沒有提到的地方
我的5100 and Rolex GMT 16700經過5年多快年輪流使用的狀況下 還是走的很準沒有送廠保養洗油過 尤其Rolex GMT 16700真是耐操上山下海 可惜可惜後來竟然把它賣掉(還小賺一些) 經過實戰的經驗總是給自己多一些放心 對品牌也比較相信 買錶最怕蜜月期一過 什麼毛病都來 那才是嘔血 |
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, 都很實用,又不錯看
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