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mayercie0920
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發表 發表於: 星期五 2021-01-29 09:47
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中國製表業已經起來了⋯⋯,否則綠水鬼怎麼可以騙過當舗?
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發表 發表於: 星期六 2021-01-30 22:11
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阿舍婦科外
現在大陸也在婦科阿舍
剛剛有看到
大陸復刻阿舍那隻綠色鋼蛋的鮪魚罐 裝白ㄘ
看起來還不錯
更棒的是沒有"X"
WTF with "X" on the dial
在去臉書看沒看到沒辦法抓圖 困惑

那個不倫不類的X刻在龍頭上..不知道阿舍那些X蛋在想什麼?
好好一個S不刻..去刻個X一點美感都沒有
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發表 發表於: 星期日 2021-01-31 00:13
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找到了..哈哈

https://wrwatches.com/collections/rdunae-retangula/products/retangula-zaku-tuna

不到1/10之一的價格..就可以假冒一下阿舍
testdrive
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發表 發表於: 星期四 2021-02-11 08:42
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原來KS和GS共同的特質是性能、設計和品質的高層次
差異之處在於GS追求的是功能性(精準度)
KS專注在設計、外裝和構造

這位台灣精工總經理一語突破盲腸呀:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbkIUelIVxE&t=183s

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發表 發表於: 星期四 2021-02-11 20:43
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testdrive 寫到:
原來KS和GS共同的特質是性能、設計和品質的高層次
差異之處在於GS追求的是功能性(精準度)
KS專注在設計、外裝和構造

這位台灣精工總經理一語突破盲腸呀:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbkIUelIVxE&t=183s


現在的KS裡面裝的是 "垃圾"
還超級貴 裝白ㄘ
liyolai
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發表 發表於: 星期四 2021-02-11 23:09
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6L35機芯跟6R35是跟同等級嗎?
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發表 發表於: 星期五 2021-02-12 04:04
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liyolai 寫到:
6L35機芯跟6R35是跟同等級嗎?


我不是機心專家
我都拿數字越高等級越高來看阿舍
沒有8字頭我也不會碰....除非是石英錶
這樣子認定...也八九不離十

https://musingsofawatchaddict.wordpress.com/2018/03/31/the-new-seiko-6l35-caliber-introduced-in-the-presage-sje073j1-sara015-or-is-it/

The 6L35 appears to be a mix of the 4L25 and 4L75 as it has the power reserve of the 4L25 (45 hours), but the accuracy of the 4L75 (+15/-10 sec) rather than the 4L25 which was slightly less well adjusted. This helps to explain the rather high pricing of this Presage which really is more in line with the pricing of the Credors powered previously by the 4L75.

Why then did Seiko make an imperfect clone of the 4L given that all the fundamental specifications of the movement are the same? I suspect that this was due to the licencing arrangement between Soprod and Seiko regarding the 4L and Seiko had to work around this by changing, cosmetically, certain parts of the 6L including the balance wheel and anti-shock system in order to avoid infringing their agreement with Soprod.

This then brings us to the next question of why Seiko had to bring back the 4L caliber to power its new Presage models.

Firstly, as many people have correctly noted, Seiko movements are generally never thin. For example, all modern GS are at least 13mm thick. Having the 3.6mm thick 6L movement would allow Seiko to introduce true thin dress watches below 10mm and better compete with its European counterparts.

Secondly and more importantly, Seiko likely made a huge expense in designing and manufacturing the 4L family, and it was only used in models from 2007 – 2008, with it then being relegated to the Credors until 2013. Seiko probably had to recoup the capital it invested in building the machines to manufacture the 4L family, and was waiting for the right opportunity to utilise the 4L movements in watches that could fetch a higher price. After all, it’s pretty telling that the 4L/6L is the first ever movement that went from an upper tier line (Credor) to a lower tier line (Presage). Every other movement generally stayed within its own price bucket/line, with the exception of the Seiko 4S, which moved upward to power the Credor from its pedestrian origins powering the normal Seiko mechanical timepieces.

The time is now right for Seiko to introduce ever higher priced watches that do not carry the GS designation which requires manpower intensive work in adjusting and then certifying each and every watch. By introducing the 6L powered Presage (probably the most expensive time only Presage ever), Seiko could hope to recover some of the investment made in its movement, while getting consumers used to ever higher price points in the Presage range. This would then allow Seiko to creep the price points of its top tier Credor and Grand Seiko lines upwards as well.


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發表 發表於: 星期五 2021-02-12 04:15
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https://reference.grail-watch.com/movement/seiko-6l35/

Cal. 6L35 is a high-end slim automatic movement with date from Seiko. Produced only in 2018, it part of the earlier Seiko 4L/6L family which provided the design for the Soprod A10 family of Swiss movements. It is exactly the same size as the popular ETA 2892A2, and has similar specifications as well, though the design is completely different. It is similar to Cal. 4L25 and 4L75.
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發表 發表於: 星期五 2021-02-12 04:18
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https://reference.grail-watch.com/family/soprod-a10/

https://calibercorner.com/soprod-caliber-a10/

用soprod-a10的錶款
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liyolai
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發表 發表於: 星期五 2021-02-12 04:58
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跟6R同等的機芯賣那麼貴 難怪在國外也被網友鞭得很慘
看來2000年的那次 KS復刻用4S15機芯比較有誠意
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